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Talk:Spellcraft

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"Spellcraft's bonus to all saving throws against spells does not save against Area of effect spells, such as Storm of vengeance and Grease."

Can somone test/prove this please? 169.231.7.171 03:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Its true, i tested. ILKAY 04:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Is this considered a bug, or is this intended to be? has anybody reported this to bioware? Gruftlord 15:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • ok, i just reported that bug. but i´m not quite sure, when this bug triggers, and when not. what does AoEs refer to here? spells, that cover an area for a certain duration? or all spells with and target > singlecharacter. no matter if intant or not? Gruftlord 20:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Based on the game's usual technical mechanics, I would guess the bug applies for all persistent spells (since they perform saving throws outside the spell's impact script), regardless of whether or not they affect an area. If my guess is right, combust should also deny the spellcraft bonus to saves.
Actually, I'm not sure this should be considered a bug. It's certainly an anomaly, but I've thought of the spellcraft bonus to saves as representing "knowing what's coming" as you watch the spell being cast. That wouldn't apply to a persistent effect. Well, it's BioWare's call, not mine. It's been reported, and we'll see what happens. --The Krit 22:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • ok, so its working against all instant spells then. good to hear. a allready feared, it might not work against all those Fireballs and Meteorstorms and such :D
anyway: i just reported the bonus wouldn´t work against AOE spells, not further specifying (since i simply took the info i found here, and thought it applies to all AOE spells). maybe they might even miss, what is not correctely working now....
but then again: maybe your right and this isn´t even a bug. i don´t know. Gruftlord 23:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I checked combust, and those saves also do not benefit from spellcraft. It looks like spellcraft only helps saves made within a spell's impact script. --The Krit 21:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)