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Retracted[]

[nope, never mind]  BCH (talk) 01:46, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Level in related Hold spell list ?[]

Shouldn't the level of Hold Person be 2 in the list of Hold spells? - MrZork (talk) 01:38, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Mind-Affecting?[]

"Despite the mind-affecting descriptor listed in-game, the saving throw is not made "versus" anything (but the effect is still mind-affecting)." Whatever the person who typed this was trying to imply was lost on me. Can someone explain what this actually means? Bushwhacker2k (talk) 15:06, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

  • "Despite the mind-affecting descriptor listed in-game," means that the in-game spell description lists "mid-affecting" as the descriptor (which is apparently false); "the saving throw is not made 'versus' anything" means that bonuses to saves versus mind-affecting will not help with saves against this spell; "(but the effect is still mind-affecting)" means that immunity to mind-affecting effects will protect from the result of failing the save against this spell. --The Krit (talk) 19:40, March 5, 2018 (UTC)
  • Ah, I see where that misinformation came from now. Looks like it was my fault, as I accepted an untrustworthy source without adequately verifying things. --The Krit (talk) 19:47, March 5, 2018 (UTC)
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