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Talk:Greater wildshape III

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[edit] Manticore tail spikes

Maybe I'm just lucky but I've been able to use this ability for far more than the alloted uses per shift. Also the ranged touch attack for spikes looks like BAB + strength modifier rather than the formula given in the article. My character is currently a level 16 shifter (with 16 druid levels). Harleyquin 18:16, 8 June 2006 (PDT)

  • I did extensive testing on the manticore spikes after reading the above note. Harleyquin, you were closer to the correct AB formula than was previously written up. The AB = BAB + DEX modifier (which is +4 unless you have taken a Cat's Grace or something - which I did to see what was affecting the AB). Also, I tried just firing and firing, and many more spikes than my 10 Shifter Levels would warrant, the spikes showed no signs of ever running out. I changed the article to reflect these things and to add the (rather significant) fact that there is no save against it. Whoo-hoo! One of my favoritist shapes now,... having not gotten to any epic shapes yet. -Zenobia 21:07, 26 July 2006 (PDT)

Does anyone know if sneak-attack, or any other buff for that matter, applies to the tail-spike attack? --Reverendmacdog 5 February 2009

  • Sneak attack damage is not added to tail spikes. Buffs do not affect tail spike damage. Sneak attack is not a buff. --The Krit 20:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)