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Expeditious retreat

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Talk:Expeditious retreat

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‎Item Property?: no

Talk:Expeditious retreat

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User:Antonio10989

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Talk:Continual flame

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indents

Ray of enfeeblement

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‎Notes: This spell does not enforce minimum strength -- moving that info to ability score loss

Whirlwind attack

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restore "base"

Damage increase

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wikicode simplification

Sit on spawn and sit on conversation

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Revert code duplication

Sit on spawn and sit on conversation

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‎SitOnSpawn Script:

Weapon master

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‎Notes: first WM level at 7 requires only 4 levels of fighter during levels 1-6

Air elemental

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‎Notes:

Water elemental

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‎Notes:

Attack bonus advice

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‎Class specifics: owl's insight

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re: owl's insight

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‎Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour:

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‎Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour:

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‎Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour: modifier, not ability

User:24.197.170.215

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Clothing

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Talk:Attack bonus advice

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Clothing

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User talk:85.10.227.99

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== User pages ==

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 |line3=haste (spell)
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-|desc=The caster becomes 150% faster than their normal [[movement rate]], allowing them to flee from dangerous encounters. This spell has no effect if the caster is already hasted.}}
+|desc=The caster becomes 150% [[movement speed increase|faster]] than their normal [[movement rate]], allowing them to flee from dangerous encounters. This spell has no effect if the caster is already hasted.}}
 == Notes ==

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 * The script attempts to make the caster move at 250% normal speed, which means 150% faster. So the description is not misleading. There is, however, a problem in that the scripting command used only supports movement increases up to 99. There have also been reports that speed increases over 50% are unreliable, which might explain what you were seeing? --[[User:The Krit|The Krit]] 19:07, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 :* Actually EffectMovementSpeedIncrease() works wierdly. From 0-99 it acts as a percent bonus (e.g. 99 triggers a multiplication by 1.99) at 100 and above it serves as a straight multiplication percentage (e.g. 100 triggers a multiplication by 1.00, and 200 triggers a multiplication by 2.00) . So EffectMovementSpeedIncrease(50) = EffectMovementSpeedIncrease(150). The phrase "... times faster" though is ambiguous as it is commonly used for both meanings while strictly its meaning ought to be the bonus. [[User:WhiZard|WhiZard]] 21:22, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
 ==Item Property?==
 Can expeditious retreat be a permanent item property, like haste can? [[User:Terocone|Terocone]] ([[User talk:Terocone|talk]]) 00:33, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

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	* The script attempts to make the caster move at 250% normal speed, which means 150% faster. So the description is not misleading. There is, however, a problem in that the scripting command used only supports movement increases up to 99. There have also been reports that speed increases over 50% are unreliable, which might explain what you were seeing? --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] 19:07, February 27, 2010 (UTC)		* The script attempts to make the caster move at 250% normal speed, which means 150% faster. So the description is not misleading. There is, however, a problem in that the scripting command used only supports movement increases up to 99. There have also been reports that speed increases over 50% are unreliable, which might explain what you were seeing? --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] 19:07, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
−	:* Actually EffectMovementSpeedIncrease() works wierdly. From 0-99 it acts as a percent bonus (e.g. 99 triggers a multiplication by 1.99) at 100 and above it serves as a straight multiplication percentage (e.g. 100 triggers a multiplication by 1.00, and 200 triggers a multiplication by 2.00) . So EffectMovementSpeedIncrease(50) = EffectMovementSpeedIncrease(150). The phrase "... times faster" though is ambiguous as it is commonly used for both meanings while strictly its meaning ought to be the bonus. [[User:WhiZard\|WhiZard]] 21:22, February 10, 2011 (UTC)	+	:* Actually EffectMovementSpeedIncrease() works wierdly. From 0-99 it acts as a percent bonus (e.g. 99 triggers a multiplication by 1.99) at 100 and above it serves as a straight multiplication percentage (e.g. 100 triggers a multiplication by 1.00, and 200 triggers a multiplication by 2.00) . So EffectMovementSpeedIncrease(50) = EffectMovementSpeedIncrease(150). The phrase "... times faster" though is ambiguous as it is commonly used for both meanings while strictly its meaning ought to be the bonus. [[User:WhiZard\|WhiZard]] 21:22, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
		+	==Item Property?==
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		+	Can expeditious retreat be a permanent item property, like haste can? [[User:Terocone\|Terocone]] ([[User talk:Terocone\|talk]]) 00:33, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

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	Oddly enough, I have found that some servers will ban this spell as an exploit, since, as stated, this spell increases the price of an item as it adds a permanent item property. --[[Special:Contributions/24.131.210.227\|24.131.210.227]] February 2008		Oddly enough, I have found that some servers will ban this spell as an exploit, since, as stated, this spell increases the price of an item as it adds a permanent item property. --[[Special:Contributions/24.131.210.227\|24.131.210.227]] February 2008

−	Yes, it is odd. Especially sinds those people, often role players, are always crying about realism in games. To me, buying and selling for profit seems very realistic. Long live hypocrisy?	+	* Yes, it is odd. Especially sinds those people, often role players, are always crying about realism in games. To me, buying and selling for profit seems very realistic. Long live hypocrisy?
−		+	:
−	Although, because it adds around 100 gold to the value of the item, I must agree that using this in the single player game is a bit to much. But the fact that on most servers good items often cost literally tens or hundreds of millions of gold, should be reason enough to not see it as a problem. I personally would never even consider taking the time to buy 10 MILLION items and sell these to make enough money to buy a certain item. It would cost me a week, and leave me with a broken mouse and/or sore fingers. If anything, the money gain could even be customized to a lower amount. Actually, many servers do allow making money from crafting, so you could easily make this spell only accesable to crafters. It's all so relative, but people love it more to call this or that an exploit, than to come up with positive solutions without being a hypocrite.	+	: Although, because it adds around 100 gold to the value of the item, I must agree that using this in the single player game is a bit to much. But the fact that on most servers good items often cost literally tens or hundreds of millions of gold, should be reason enough to not see it as a problem. I personally would never even consider taking the time to buy 10 MILLION items and sell these to make enough money to buy a certain item. It would cost me a week, and leave me with a broken mouse and/or sore fingers. If anything, the money gain could even be customized to a lower amount. Actually, many servers do allow making money from crafting, so you could easily make this spell only accesable to crafters. It's all so relative, but people love it more to call this or that an exploit, than to come up with positive solutions without being a hypocrite.
−		+	:
−	So, is it really an exploit? Seems to me that this spell clearly was intended as it is, otherwise it would have been surely "fixed". [[Special:Contributions/217.121.86.187\|217.121.86.187]] 21:21, May 5, 2013 (UTC)	+	: So, is it really an exploit? Seems to me that this spell clearly was intended as it is, otherwise it would have been surely "fixed". [[Special:Contributions/217.121.86.187\|217.121.86.187]] 21:21, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

	== Stealth ==		== Stealth ==

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 == Notes ==
-* The cap of 11 refers to the total strength damage inflicted, and it is applied before [[empower spell|empowering]] (which may result in up to (d6+5)*1.5 strength damage).
+* This spell's in-game description would be more precise if "maximum of 11 damage" was changed to "maximum of +5". Caster levels above 10 do not contribute to the damage calculation, and the damage can be increased above 11 with [[empower spell]].
 * Contrary to the in-game descriptor, the save is made versus "negative" and protection from [[death magic]] has no impact on this spell.

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 === Previous versions ===
-* Prior to version 1.69, the attacks were not made with the full attack bonus; each successive attack had a cumulative -5 modifier to the attack bonus.
+* Prior to version 1.69, the attacks were not made with the full base attack bonus; each successive attack had a cumulative -5 modifier to the attack bonus.
 == Custom content notes ==

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 == Examples ==
-Consider a character with 14 strength, a +20 [[enhancement bonus|enhancement]] [[halberd]] (with no other properties), a +20 piercing damage increase effect, a +10 divine damage increase effect (from [[Divine might|divine might]] ), and a +5 magical damage increase effect (from ''divine favor'').
+Consider a character with 14 strength, a +20 [[enhancement bonus|enhancement]] [[halberd]] (with no other properties), a +20 piercing damage increase effect, a +10 divine damage increase effect (from [[divine might]] ), and a +5 magical damage increase effect (from ''divine favor'').
 If he scores a critical hit on a placeable with 20 hardness, then the +20 from the enhancement is combined with the +20 from the damage effect and is multiplied by 3 to get 120, but only makes 100 damage because of the cap.

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+}
-</pre>void main()<br />{
+</pre>
 {<br />string sMyTagName = GetTag(OBJECT_SELF);<br />string sSittableTagName = "CHAIR_" + sMyTagName;<br />int nChair = 1;<br />object oChair;<br />oChair = GetNearestObjectByTag(sSittableTagName, OBJECT_SELF, nChair);<br />ActionSit(oChair);<br />}<br />}
 == SitOnConvers Notes ==
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+          }
+}
-</pre>void main()<br />{
+</pre>
 if(GetCommandable(OBJECT_SELF))<br />{<br />{<br />BeginConversation();<br />}<br />ClearAllActions();<br />int nChair = 1;<br />string sMyTagName = GetTag(OBJECT_SELF);<br />string sSittableTagName = "CHAIR_" + sMyTagName;<br />object oChair = GetNearestObjectByTag(sSittableTagName, OBJECT_SELF, nChair);<br />ActionSit(oChair);<br />}<br />}
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 *Requires [[Hordes of the Underdark]].
 *It is not possible to create a weapon master with [[unarmed strike]] or a [[ranged weapon]].
 * As the weapon of choice is chosen from a list, it is technically a [[bonus feat]] selected from a list. As such, it is available for selection (again) as a bonus feat at epic levels if the weapon focus prerequisite is met. Furthermore, a different bonus feat can be substituted for ''weapon of choice'' at weapon master level 1, if the prerequisites for that feat are met (which, among other things, implies being an epic character).
 *Weapon master and [[shadowdancer]] are the only classes lacking the generic class skills [[craft weapon]], [[craft trap]], [[craft armor]] as well as [[concentration]] and [[parry]] (all are [[cross-class skill]]s).
-*Although the ultimate specialist in a single weapon, weapon masters cannot take [[weapon specialization]] and [[epic weapon specialization]] without taking at least 4 [[fighter]] levels.  One fighter or [[champion of Torm]] epic level must be taken for epic weapon specialization, leaving room for 29 weapon master levels. The last weapon master bonus feat and [[attack bonus]] increase is at level 28, so not much is lost by going that route.
+*Although the ultimate specialist in a single weapon, weapon masters cannot take [[weapon specialization]] and [[epic weapon specialization]] without taking at least 4 [[fighter]] levels. One fighter or [[champion of Torm]] epic level must be taken for epic weapon specialization, leaving room for 29 weapon master levels. The last weapon master bonus feat and [[attack bonus]] increase is at level 28, so not much is lost by going that route.
 *The [[increased multiplier]] and [[ki critical]] feats make a deadly combination with [[overwhelming critical]] and [[devastating critical]] (against creatures not immune to [[critical hit]]s).
 [[category:prestige classes]]

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 [[elder air elemental]]
 [[Category:Elementals]]
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 [[greater water elemental]],
 [[elder water elemental]]
 [[Category:Elementals]]
 [[category:summons]]

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    !Druid
+   |
-   |''[[aura of vitality]]'' (+2)<br />''[[blood frenzy]]'' (+1)<br />''[[bull's strength]]'' (+1-4)<br />[[dragon shape]]<br />[[elemental shape]]<br />[[wild shape]]
+   |''[[aura of vitality]]'' (+2)<br />''[[blood frenzy]]'' (+1)<br />''[[bull's strength]]'' (+1-4)<br />''[[owl's insight]]'' (+2-6)<br />[[dragon shape]]<br />[[elemental shape]]<br />[[wild shape]]
+   |
    |[[nature sense]] (+2)<br />summoner

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 ==Origin==
 I copied this over from something I wrote a long time ago, I did some minor editing, but basically left the content intact. There will be redundant information with respect to the wiki and it is missing class specific advice and details on interaction between ab and other factors, amongst other things, and will probably almost all go over time. But it seemed like an easy way to get something on paper so to speak...[[User:RAMss|RAMss]] 07:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
-*Please rewrite this to get rid of the second person pronouns, and anything else that needs to be done to bring it up to [[NWNWiki:Manual of style|NWNWiki standards]]. --[[User:The Krit|The Krit]] 16:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
+* Please rewrite this to get rid of the second person pronouns, and anything else that needs to be done to bring it up to [[NWNWiki:Manual of style|NWNWiki standards]]. --[[User:The Krit|The Krit]] 16:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 ==Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour==
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 * The spells normally give +2 to +5 ''to the ability'', but it is the ability ''modifier'' that gets added to the attack bonus. So cut those values in half. A normal ''bull's strength'' can increase the strength modifier by +2/2 to +5/2 (rounded up if strength had been odd). There's the low end -- attack bonus increased by by +2/2 = +1. To get the upper end, [[empower spell|empower the spell]] to possibly get +7 strength, which can give +4 to the strength modifier (and to the attack bonus). --[[User:The Krit|The Krit]] ([[User talk:The Krit|talk]]) 03:29, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * I understand what you mean, I think the table was just confusing me becuase it says under the "Paladin" section Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour (1-4) which I assumed meant that the ability modifier is 1-4 not the attack bonus modifier. I forgot that Paladins can empower spells and that's where you get the 1-4 range from. Thanks for clearing that up, I know how to read that table now. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48|94.185.176.48]] 02:29, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
-* Is there a reason for the table, anyway?  If it is supposed to be exhaustive, then why is it limited to the base classes? Why don't the abilities include all increases (e.g. owl's insight)? Why aren't all the polymorphs listed? Blindness, invisibility, and darkness conditions? Flatfooted means like entangle, paralysis, prone?  Why isn't the +3 on the Tenser sword there?  Should there be a separate column for size modifier change? How about summons that can reduce enemy AC from abilities like knockdown?  What about UMD and scrolls? By the time everything is factored in the table would look more like clutter than a useful reference, although it seems sort of like clutter already.  [[Special:Contributions/50.200.131.97|50.200.131.97]] 17:00, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
+:* I understand what you mean, I think the table was just confusing me becuase it says under the "Paladin" section Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour (1-4) which I assumed meant that the ability modifier is 1-4 not the attack bonus modifier. I forgot that Paladins can empower spells and that's where you get the 1-4 range from. Thanks for clearing that up, I know how to read that table now. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48|94.185.176.48]] 02:29, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

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	* The spells normally give +2 to +5 ''to the ability'', but it is the ability ''modifier'' that gets added to the attack bonus. So cut those values in half. A normal ''bull's strength'' can increase the strength modifier by +2/2 to +5/2 (rounded up if strength had been odd). There's the low end -- attack bonus increased by by +2/2 = +1. To get the upper end, [[empower spell\|empower the spell]] to possibly get +7 strength, which can give +4 to the strength modifier (and to the attack bonus). --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] ([[User talk:The Krit\|talk]]) 03:29, May 15, 2013 (UTC)		* The spells normally give +2 to +5 ''to the ability'', but it is the ability ''modifier'' that gets added to the attack bonus. So cut those values in half. A normal ''bull's strength'' can increase the strength modifier by +2/2 to +5/2 (rounded up if strength had been odd). There's the low end -- attack bonus increased by by +2/2 = +1. To get the upper end, [[empower spell\|empower the spell]] to possibly get +7 strength, which can give +4 to the strength modifier (and to the attack bonus). --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] ([[User talk:The Krit\|talk]]) 03:29, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
	* I understand what you mean, I think the table was just confusing me becuase it says under the "Paladin" section Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour (1-4) which I assumed meant that the ability modifier is 1-4 not the attack bonus modifier. I forgot that Paladins can empower spells and that's where you get the 1-4 range from. Thanks for clearing that up, I know how to read that table now. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48\|94.185.176.48]] 02:29, May 16, 2013 (UTC)		* I understand what you mean, I think the table was just confusing me becuase it says under the "Paladin" section Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour (1-4) which I assumed meant that the ability modifier is 1-4 not the attack bonus modifier. I forgot that Paladins can empower spells and that's where you get the 1-4 range from. Thanks for clearing that up, I know how to read that table now. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48\|94.185.176.48]] 02:29, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
		+	* Is there a reason for the table, anyway? If it is supposed to be exhaustive, then why is it limited to the base classes? Why don't the abilities include all increases (e.g. owl's insight)? Why aren't all the polymorphs listed? Blindness, invisibility, and darkness conditions? Flatfooted means like entangle, paralysis, prone? Why isn't the +3 on the Tenser sword there? Should there be a separate column for size modifier change? How about summons that can reduce enemy AC from abilities like knockdown? What about UMD and scrolls? By the time everything is factored in the table would look more like clutter than a useful reference, although it seems sort of like clutter already. [[Special:Contributions/50.200.131.97\|50.200.131.97]] 17:00, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

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	* The spells normally give +2 to +5 ''to the ability'', but it is the ability ''modifier'' that gets added to the attack bonus. So cut those values in half. A normal ''bull's strength'' can increase the strength modifier by +2/2 to +5/2 (rounded up if strength had been odd). There's the low end -- attack bonus increased by by +2/2 = +1. To get the upper end, [[empower spell\|empower the spell]] to possibly get +7 strength, which can give +4 to the strength modifier (and to the attack bonus). --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] ([[User talk:The Krit\|talk]]) 03:29, May 15, 2013 (UTC)		* The spells normally give +2 to +5 ''to the ability'', but it is the ability ''modifier'' that gets added to the attack bonus. So cut those values in half. A normal ''bull's strength'' can increase the strength modifier by +2/2 to +5/2 (rounded up if strength had been odd). There's the low end -- attack bonus increased by by +2/2 = +1. To get the upper end, [[empower spell\|empower the spell]] to possibly get +7 strength, which can give +4 to the strength modifier (and to the attack bonus). --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] ([[User talk:The Krit\|talk]]) 03:29, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
		+	* I understand what you mean, I think the table was just confusing me becuase it says under the "Paladin" section Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour (1-4) which I assumed meant that the ability modifier is 1-4 not the attack bonus modifier. I forgot that Paladins can empower spells and that's where you get the 1-4 range from. Thanks for clearing that up, I know how to read that table now. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48\|94.185.176.48]] 02:29, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

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−	'''i fuxed your mom'''	+	'''Clothing''' generally refers either magical or non-magical forms of clothing which do not confer a [[armor bonus]] but are worn in the same [[armor slot]].
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		+	High-Dexterity based characters will prefer magical clothing over light armor as this maximises their dexterity-modifer for AC.
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		+	==Examples==
		+	* '''Non-Magical Clothing'''
		+	** Barbarian's Outfit
		+	** Commoner's Tunic
		+	** Assassin's Garb
		+	** Bloodsailors Uniform
		+	** Curst Clothing
		+	* '''Magical Clothing'''
		+	** Adventurer's Robes
		+	** Mage's Battle Robes
		+	** Robes of the Old Order
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	[[Category: Armor]]		[[Category: Armor]]

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−	'''Clothing''' generally refers either magical or non-magical forms of clothing which do not confer a [[armor bonus]] but are worn in the same [[armor slot]].	+	'''i fuxed your mom'''
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−	High-Dexterity based characters will prefer magical clothing over light armor as this maximises their dexterity-modifer for AC.
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−	==Examples==
−	* '''Non-Magical Clothing'''
−	** Barbarian's Outfit
−	** Commoner's Tunic
−	** Assassin's Garb
−	** Bloodsailors Uniform
−	** Curst Clothing
−	* '''Magical Clothing'''
−	** Adventurer's Robes
−	** Mage's Battle Robes
−	** Robes of the Old Order
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	[[Category: Armor]]		[[Category: Armor]]

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	==Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour==		==Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour==
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	Not sure about potions/scrolls/mage spells etc. but correct me if I'm wrong, when a Paladin casts either Bull's Strength or Eagle's Splendour isn't it 1d4+1, not just 1d4 making the range 2-5 not 1-4. If it is, the table should probaby be changed to reflect that. Haven't played NWN in a while but I'm sure I remember when I was playing a Paladin that I never had a +1 bonus after casting those spells, but I for sure got a +5 bonus from time to time. Or is that just something they've written in the description but haven't implemented in the game and my memory being messed up? Woudn't be the first time its happened. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48\|94.185.176.48]] 03:08, May 15, 2013 (UTC)		Not sure about potions/scrolls/mage spells etc. but correct me if I'm wrong, when a Paladin casts either Bull's Strength or Eagle's Splendour isn't it 1d4+1, not just 1d4 making the range 2-5 not 1-4. If it is, the table should probaby be changed to reflect that. Haven't played NWN in a while but I'm sure I remember when I was playing a Paladin that I never had a +1 bonus after casting those spells, but I for sure got a +5 bonus from time to time. Or is that just something they've written in the description but haven't implemented in the game and my memory being messed up? Woudn't be the first time its happened. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48\|94.185.176.48]] 03:08, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
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		+	* The spells normally give +2 to +5 ''to the ability'', but it is the ability ''modifier'' that gets added to the attack bonus. So cut those values in half. A normal ''bull's strength'' can increase the strength modifier by +2/2 to +5/2 (rounded up if strength had been odd). There's the low end -- attack bonus increased by by +2/2 = +1. To get the upper end, [[empower spell\|empower the spell]] to possibly get +7 strength, which can give +4 to the strength modifier (and to the attack bonus). --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] ([[User talk:The Krit\|talk]]) 03:29, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

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	*Please rewrite this to get rid of the second person pronouns, and anything else that needs to be done to bring it up to [[NWNWiki:Manual of style\|NWNWiki standards]]. --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] 16:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)		*Please rewrite this to get rid of the second person pronouns, and anything else that needs to be done to bring it up to [[NWNWiki:Manual of style\|NWNWiki standards]]. --[[User:The Krit\|The Krit]] 16:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
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		+	==Bull's Strength/Eagle's Splendour==
		+	Not sure about potions/scrolls/mage spells etc. but correct me if I'm wrong, when a Paladin casts either Bull's Strength or Eagle's Splendour isn't it 1d4+1, not just 1d4 making the range 2-5 not 1-4. If it is, the table should probaby be changed to reflect that. Haven't played NWN in a while but I'm sure I remember when I was playing a Paladin that I never had a +1 bonus after casting those spells, but I for sure got a +5 bonus from time to time. Or is that just something they've written in the description but haven't implemented in the game and my memory being messed up? Woudn't be the first time its happened. [[Special:Contributions/94.185.176.48\|94.185.176.48]] 03:08, May 15, 2013 (UTC)